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  1. #31

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    Citat tinko balinko je objavil: Pokaži objave
    Ce temu ni tako mi dokazite da je orozje krivo da so zadetki razlicni
    Ni orožje krivo ampak prijem.
    Streljaj npr z Casulom ali cal.500 z eno roko ali obema. V prvem primeru bodo zadetki visoko. Pred kratkim sem napisal, da so razlike bolj opazne pri lahkih (veliko lovskih) puškah in močnejših kalibrih.
    Če že nimaš prakse pa kaj preberi namesto da nepravilnosti učiš.

  2. #32

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    Citat tinko balinko je objavil: Pokaži objave
    "...Potem pomeni da puska ki jo uporablja nek hrust drugace nosi kot nekaksen suhcat fantic.
    Če streljata oba z isto puško, je zelo malo verjetno, da bo obema nesla enako. Razlogov za to je mnogo...

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    Here’s some benchrest advice that can help you reduce vertical and shoot tighter groups… without spending another penny. Next time you go to the range, experiment with the position of your rifle on the front rest, and try a couple different positions for the rear bag. You may find that the rifle handles much better after you’ve made a small change in the placement of your gun on the bags. Recoil can be tamed a bit, and tracking can improve significantly, if you optimize the front rest and rear bag positioning.

    Balance Your Gun BEFORE You Spend Hours Tuning Loads
    In the pursuit of ultimate accuracy, shooters may spend countless hours on brass prep, bullet selection, and load tuning. Yet the same shooters may pay little attention to how their gun is set-up on the bags. When you have acquired a new rifle, you should do some basic experimentation to find the optimal position for the forearm on the front rest, and the best position for the rear bag. Small changes can make a big difference.

    Dejstvo je da razlike zaradi naslona so!

    Joel Kendrick, past IBS 600-yard Shooter of the Year, has observed that by adjusting forearm position on the front rest, he can tune out vertical. He has one carbon-fiber-reinforced stock that is extremely rigid. When it was placed with the front rest right under the very tip of the forearm, the gun tended to hop, creating vertical. By sliding the whole gun forward (with more forearm overhang ahead of the front sandbag), he was able to get the whole rig to settle down. That resulted in less vertical dispersion, and the gun tracked much better.

    Likewise, the placement of the rear bag is very important. Many shooters, by default, will simply place the rear bag the same distance from the front rest with all their guns. In fact, different stocks and different calibers will NOT behave the same. By moving the rear bag forward and aft, you can adjust the rifle’s overall balance and this can improve the tracking significantly. One of our shooters had a Savage 6BR F-Class rifle. By default he had his rear bag set almost all the way at the end of the buttstock. When he slid the rear bag a couple inches forward the gun tracked much better. He immediately noticed that the gun returned to point of aim better (crosshairs would stay on target from shot to shot), AND the gun torqued (twisted) less. The difference was quite noticeable.



    The important point to remember here is that each rig is different. One gun may perform best with the front rest right at the tip of the forearm (Position ‘D’ in photo), while another gun will work best with the rest positioned much further back. This Editor’s own 6BR sits in a laminated stock that is pretty flexy in the front. It shoots best with the front rest’s sandbag located a good 6″ back from the forearm tip (position ‘A’).

    A small change in the position of the forearm on the front rest, or in the placement of the rear bag, can make a big difference in how your gun performs. You should experiment with the forearm placement, trying different positions on the front rest. Likewise, you can move the rear bag back and forth a few inches. Once you establish the optimal positions of front rest and rear bag, you should find that your gun tracks better and returns to battery more reliably. You may then discover that the gun shoots smaller groups, with less vertical dispersion. And all these benefits are possible without purchasing any expensive new gear.

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    Citat tinko balinko je objavil: Pokaži objave
    Moja puska ce streljam jaz gre tocno ce strelja z njo moj oce gre 10cm visje in bova obadva grupirala zadetke.
    To si napisal kot bi jaz. Zaradi drugačne drže so zadetki drugje.
    Predno nadaljujemo z prepričevanjem prepričanih še enkrat počasi preberi vse nazaj in premisli, kje smo šli narazen.

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    alojz nisem jaz zacel z temi fintami.........
    Evo se obljubljena slikca.Odspredaj ponavadi dam cunjo not zaradi razlicnih debelin kopit.Zadevo smo zaradi terena naredeili na tej visini da lepo klecis zraven.Se opravicujem ker zadeva ni sciscena

  6. #36

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    Osnovno pri strelu, če želimo da je točen in da po njem ocenjujemo puško, je stabilnost. Tako stabilnost podlage, kot stabilnost strelca.
    Na tej Balinkovi napravi so možnosti za stabilnost zelo majhne. Sicer ima konice za stabilizacijo v tla, a teren je lahko različen in je to pogojno uporabno.
    Naslednje je pravilna pozicija, ker le s tem, da se navadimo pravilne pozicije, je zagotovljena ponovljivost in tako ocenjevanje puške ali municije.
    Tudi tega pogoja to stojalo ne izpolnjuje. Klečeči položaj ni dober položaj!
    Iz tega stojala bo lahko dobro ustrelil le res dober strelec, vsem ostalim bo delal preglavice.

    Najboljša je pravilno oblikovana masivna miza, na kateri uporabimo vreče s peskom ali bench rest podlage.
    Tudi stojalo na taki masivni mizi je dobro, še najboljše je tisto, ki omogoča nalaganje teže s peskom ali vodo. Obstajajo tudi prenosne mize, kjer strelec zadevo stabilizira s svojo težo. In vsaka taka miza mora s svojo konstrukcijo omogočiti normalno pozicijo strelca. Ta pa je lepo zravnano pokončno sedeča! In mora omogočati naslone komolcev, kar je bistveni element stabilnosti.

    Evo, to je mojih 5centov.
    Last edited by Sršen; 25. October 2012 at 14:24.
    Verum justicia quod parilitas!

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    Sršen ni kaj dodati. Mogoče cunje.
    Stojalo in puška v njem morata biti stabilna, ko prestavljamo daljnogled od sredine tarče do zadetka.

  8. #38

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    Naslov teme je "Naprava za prestrelitev puške"
    (Hmmm ali puške prestrelite in imajo potem luknje še povsod drugje kot je treba ali jih pristrelite?)

    Kot sem že zapisal, stabilna masivna miza z utorom za trebuh in vreče s peskom sta ena od dobrih variant. Na našem lovskem strelišču imamo tako kot to vidiš na spodnji sliki. Mize ne grem sedaj fotkat, je pa take oblike: Vreče s peskom pa so hlačnice od kavbojk napolnjene z mivko. Tri vreče podložim pod puško čim bližje ležišču naboja, četrto pa podložim pod zadnjim delom pod ramo. In to je to. Treba se je samo prav pripraviti in po možnosti vedno enako. Možakar na sliki ni v najboljšem položaju, a povem enkrat mogoče dvakrat potem pa kakor vsak sam hoče.
    Verum justicia quod parilitas!

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    Sršen, a je zgornja slika iz slovenije?

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    Citat Tomaž Ražman je objavil: Pokaži objave
    Sršen, a je zgornja slika iz slovenije?
    Ne ni. Je sneto z neta samo da pokažem kakšne oblike je miza, ki se je na spodnji fotki ne vidi. Tista pa je iz lovišča.
    Verum justicia quod parilitas!

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